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Colossus Class Light Fleet Carrier HNLMS Karel Doorman (Ex HMS Venerable) pictured shortly post her commissioning,June 3rd 1948.

The previous Karel Doorman, ex HMS Nairana at Portsmouth August 1946 after commissioning.

Jim

The KAREL DOORMAN after her Dutch mod/rebuild. She was an effective light carrier for the time.

specs:
Displacement

15,890 tons standard
17,500 tons normal
19,890 tons full load
Length:
630 ft. (190 m) between perpendiculars
695 ft. (212 m) overall
Beam: 80 ft. (24 m)
Draught: 24.5 ft. (7.5 m)
Speed: 25 knots (46 km/h; 29 mph) at 120 revolutions
Range:
12,000 nautical miles (22,000 km; 14,000 mi) at 14 knots (26 km/h; 16 mph)
6,200 nautical miles (11,500 km; 7,100 mi) at 23 knots (43 km/h; 26 mph)
Complement: 1,000 + 300 air group
Sensors and processing systems: (1982)
Air search: Lockheed SPS-40B; E/F band
Surface search: Plessey AWS 4; E/F band
Navigation: Signaal ZW06; I band
Fire control: 2 × SPG-34; I/J band
CCA: Scanter Mil-Par; I band
Aircraft
52 piston (as built)
20~ jets by 1958
Armament:
(As designed, 1942)
6 × 4-barrelled 2 pounder anti-aircraft guns
16 × twin 20 mm Oerlikon mountings
(1958)
10 × Bofors 40 mm anti-aircraft guns (2 quads, 1 twin)
2 × 47 mm saluting guns
DFO

The Colossus class Karel Doorman suffered a boiler room fire on 26 April 1968 and she was removed from service. The boilers from the incompleted HMS Leviathan, which lay up the trot at Portsmouth since shortly after launching, were removed and fitted into Karel Doorman, which was sold to Argentina as the Veinticinco de Mayo.

Jim

Colossus Class Carrier HNLMS Doorman (Ex HMS Venerable) refuelling at sea while being escorted by Friesland Class Destroyer HNLMS Limburg, 1960.

De Zeven Provinciën Class Light Cruisers,HNLMS De Ruyter and HNLMS De Zeven Provinciën with Colossus Class HNLMS Karel Doorman (Ex HMS Venerable) at Den Helder in 1968.

Brian James wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:57 am Colossus Class Carrier HNLMS Doorman (Ex HMS Venerable) refuelling at sea while being escorted by Friesland Class Destroyer HNLMS Limburg, 1960.

Having taken a closer look at this image posted by Brian, one is left wondering if the vessel being replenished by KD is in fact streaming a stern hose for an over-the-bow replenishment of the destroyer D814. There is however; no sign of a/the pick-up float; no sign of a hose splash or wake; and one can not see any other indication of the hose having been picked up and connectivity having been achieved.

I note that all three vessels appear to have a 2 x black balls hoisted; KD and D814 on a port yard and the other vessel on a stbd yardarm(?)

It certainly seems that whatever is being streamed over the stern of the stbd vessel is too hefty to be a log line.

Any ideas?

(The captions on the attachment have been added by me)

Re. no sign of a hose splash or wake; the following attachment is included to identify the splash or wake caused by the hose when connectivity has been made:-
Attribution Save the Royal Navy website.

Little h wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:38 pm
Re. no sign of a hose splash or wake; the following attachment is included to identify the splash or wake caused by the hose when connectivity has been made:-

Or ..... is it more correctly known as a 'plume'

Colossus Class Light Fleet Carrier HNLMS Karel Doorman (Ex HMS Venerable) pictured post her major 1955-58 refit being moved from Wilton Fijenoord Shipyard Facility at Rotterdam,May 28th 1958.Many new developments in Naval Aviation were added. The typically British styled island was replaced by a Dutch designed superstructure, with similarities to the Cruisers of the De Ruyter Class. Most notably the enormous LW-01 long range radar antenna on top of an even more enormous lattice mast and a tall funnel, which carried the large LW-02 radar antenna. Typically of larger Netherlands warships was the VI nodding height finder radar, of which two were placed on either end of the superstructure. The close range anti aircraft guns were replaced by 10 Bofors 40mm, 40L70. The following 2 years she operated up to 14 Avengers, 10 Sea Hawks and 2 S-55 helicopters and acted as flagship.

Replenishment Ship HNLMS Poolster with Colossus Class Carrier HNLMS Karel Doorman (Ex HMS Venerable) in November 1964.