RN Battleships: Revenge Class
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Re: RN Battleships: Revenge Class
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All four surviving members of the British R-class operating together in the Indian Ocean, probably April 1942. To my eye, they are in this order from near to far: Royal Sovereign, Revenge, Ramillies, and Resolution. The fifth sister, Royal Oak, was famously sunk in Scapa Flow by U-47 at the beginning of the war.
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The R-class constituted a substantial part of the emergency effort to bolster the Eastern Fleet after Japan began her Pacific offensives in late 1941. Ramillies and Royal Sovereign were already in theatre, the other two being dispatched to join from the Mediterranean (Resolution) and North Atlantic (Revenge). Originally, uniting the four had been discussed for the defense of Singapore; but by March 1942, that was no longer relevant. Instead, they were to be joined by Warspite, fresh from refit in the US, plus the carriers Formidable, Indomitable, and Hermes, two heavy cruisers (Cornwall and Dorsetshire), five light cruisers (Dragon, Caledon, Enterprise, Emerald, and the Dutch Hr.Ms Jacob van Heemskerck), fourteen destroyers (four of which were Australian, and one Dutch) and six submarines (four of which were Dutch).
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Though powerful on paper, the fleet was forced into its first operation almost immediately after initial rendezvous by the Japanese Indian Ocean Raid in April 1942. The R-class, with reduced speed and limited in endurance to only three days at sea, became a secondary line of defense, or Force B, with the aged Hermes while the fast wing became Force A. As events unfolded, they would eventually withdraw all the way to Kilindini, in East Africa, in the face of Japanese aggression.
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5tShdfponsuorede ·
All four surviving members of the British R-class operating together in the Indian Ocean, probably April 1942. To my eye, they are in this order from near to far: Royal Sovereign, Revenge, Ramillies, and Resolution. The fifth sister, Royal Oak, was famously sunk in Scapa Flow by U-47 at the beginning of the war.
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The R-class constituted a substantial part of the emergency effort to bolster the Eastern Fleet after Japan began her Pacific offensives in late 1941. Ramillies and Royal Sovereign were already in theatre, the other two being dispatched to join from the Mediterranean (Resolution) and North Atlantic (Revenge). Originally, uniting the four had been discussed for the defense of Singapore; but by March 1942, that was no longer relevant. Instead, they were to be joined by Warspite, fresh from refit in the US, plus the carriers Formidable, Indomitable, and Hermes, two heavy cruisers (Cornwall and Dorsetshire), five light cruisers (Dragon, Caledon, Enterprise, Emerald, and the Dutch Hr.Ms Jacob van Heemskerck), fourteen destroyers (four of which were Australian, and one Dutch) and six submarines (four of which were Dutch).
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Though powerful on paper, the fleet was forced into its first operation almost immediately after initial rendezvous by the Japanese Indian Ocean Raid in April 1942. The R-class, with reduced speed and limited in endurance to only three days at sea, became a secondary line of defense, or Force B, with the aged Hermes while the fast wing became Force A. As events unfolded, they would eventually withdraw all the way to Kilindini, in East Africa, in the face of Japanese aggression.
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Re: RN Battleships: Revenge Class
Elements of the Royal Navy's 1st Battle Squadron, including the Battleships Revenge, Resolution, and Royal Sovereign, underway c 1918...Following the Battle of Jutland, the 1st Battle Squadron was reorganized, with Colossus, Hercules, St. Vincent, Collingwood and Neptune all transferred to the 4th Battle Squadron. In January 1917, the squadron was constituted as follows:
HMS Marlborough
HMS Agincourt
HMS Benbow – joined July, 1916
HMS Canada
HMS Emperor of India – joined July, 1916
HMS Revenge
HMS Royal Oak – joined May, 1916
HMS Royal Sovereign – joined June, 1916...By 1918, Agincourt had been transferred to the 2nd Battle Squadron, and Resolution, Ramillies and Iron Duke had joined the squadron on completion.
HMS Marlborough
HMS Agincourt
HMS Benbow – joined July, 1916
HMS Canada
HMS Emperor of India – joined July, 1916
HMS Revenge
HMS Royal Oak – joined May, 1916
HMS Royal Sovereign – joined June, 1916...By 1918, Agincourt had been transferred to the 2nd Battle Squadron, and Resolution, Ramillies and Iron Duke had joined the squadron on completion.
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Does anyone know the purpose of the cable being scured around the stem?
Does anyone know the purpose of the cable being scured around the stem?
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Re: RN Battleships: Revenge Class
I think the term is catting the anchor. Not a seaman rating but I am sure some knowledgeable seaman will explain. Not sure if it has been discussed on the forum before.
Jim
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Negative Jim, catting is when the anchor is retained separately so that the cable can be used without the anchor attached.jbryce1437 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:31 pmI think the term is catting the anchor. Not a seaman rating but I am sure some knowledgeable seaman will explain. Not sure if it has been discussed on the forum before.
Jim
i.e. ANCHOR TERMINOLOGY:
CAT THE ANCHOR: THE ANCHOR IS SAID TO BE CATTED WHEN HUNG OFF, FROM WHAT USED TO BE CALED THE CLUMP CATHEAD. MORE MODERN VESSELS WILL BE FITTED WITH A PIPE LEAD SET BACK FROM THE LINE OF THE HAWS-PIPE AND USED FOR THE PURPOSE OF HANGING-OFF ANCHORS. FOUND IN PRACTICE WHEN MOORING TO BUOYS BY MEANS OF MOORING SHACKLES WITH THE CABLE.
Possibly the example shown in the photo is to help stop the ship swinging in adverse tide, current, wind etc.
Have we not any Dabtoe members?
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Re: RN Battleships: Revenge Class
Would the starboard anchor not just be hanging separately on the starboard bow?
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I can't answer your question, but here are two more examples.
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Re: RN Battleships: Revenge Class
This is a close up of her sister, HMS Revenge. Like Bills two images above, if you zoom in to water level there is a swivel arrangement near the water line and the anchor chain then parts into two separate directions. Perhaps they have secured to an underwater chain which originally held a buoy in place, the buoy having been removed to prevent it rubbing against the ship?
Jim
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Re: RN Battleships: Revenge Class
According to My trusty Admiralty Seamanship Manual she is moored with both Anchors down this is to reduce the sea room required for the ship to swing a mooring swivel is used to prevent both anchor cables from fouling each other .Simples
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BZ Jim, possibly to reduce the radius of which the ship can swing or move ahead or astern.jbryce1437 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:23 pmThis is a close up of her sister, HMS Revenge. Like Bills two images above, if you zoom in to water level there is a swivel arrangement near the water line and the anchor chain then parts into two separate directions. Perhaps they have secured to an underwater chain which originally held a buoy in place, the buoy having been removed to prevent it rubbing against the ship?
Jim
revenge anchor.jpg
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