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Report: Cost to Repair Wrecked Norwegian Frigate Exceeds $1.4B

Damage to the hull of the Ingstad, as seen before she was raised (Image courtesy Forsvaret)

By MarEx 2019-05-14 17:22:05

The cost of repairing the salvaged frigate KNM Helge Ingstad would exceed $1.4 billion, according to Norway's defense department (Forsvaret) - far more than she cost to build.

The salvage of the Ingstad has already cost the Norwegian government over $80 million, and documents from Forsvaret's Defense Materials division given to Bergens Tidende show that "the cost of repairing the frigate will be more than [$1.4 billion]." The cost of a one-off replacement is not known, but the Ingstad - one of five vessels in a series based on Navantia's successful Álvaro de Bazán-class frigates - cost only about $500 million to build.

Forsvaret has not yet reached a formal conclusion about the possibility of repairing the Ingstad and returning her to service, but it has begun exploring options to shore up Norway's naval capabilities in her absence. Among other options, Forsvaret is considering extending the life of a class of small missile boats which are currently slated for decommissioning. It also has the option of adding one more unit onto an existing contract for new submarines.

The Ingstad collided with a tanker off the Sture oil terminal on November 8, 2018. Despite attempts to keep her afloat, within several days she sank on a rocky, sloping seabed near the terminal. The effort to raise her was slowed by foul weather, and her hull and all ships' systems remained submerged until late February.

A preliminary report from Norway's Accident Investigation Board found that a significant share of the fault for the collision lay with the Ingstad's bridge team, which believed that the oncoming tanker was a fixed object. Despite extensive attempts at communication between the tanker, the VTS center and the Ingstad, the Ingstad's team did not attempt to alter course until they were in extremis. The tanker's bow struck Ingstad amidships on the starboard side, causing extensive damage and flooding.

Source; The Maritime Executive
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Thank you very much Harry , now all is clear , I'm impressed that you speak Norwegian as well ;)
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HNoMS Tordenskjold pictured in 1900, known locally as Panserskipet Tordenskjold, she was a Norwegian Coastal Defence Ship,built at Elswick,Newcastle-upon-Tyne in 1897 She, her sister ship, Harald Haarfagre, and the slightly newer Eidsvold Class were built as a part of the general rearmament in the time leading up to the events in 1905. Tordenskjold remained an important vessel in the Royal Norwegian Navy until she was considered unfit for war in the mid-1930s. Built as a typical Pre-Dreadnought Battleship on a small scale (3,858 long tons), she carried guns of a wide range of calibers: two 8.2-inch guns in barbettes, six 4.7-inch, six 3-inch, and six smaller quick-firing guns. The ship could manage a speed of over seventeen knots. Protected by belt armour of seven inch thickness, the ship also featured gun barbettes with nearly eight inches of steel armor and an armoured deck.
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Savetheroyalnavy.org

Unsurprisingly, the Norwegian Navy has discovered cost of repairs to sunken frigate Helge Ingstad will be more than building a new ship (at least 5 yrs and well over £1Bn)
Looking at options for replacement - not necessarily with another frigate. Final decision in the summer
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A write off…

Norwegian Defence Ministry has formally announced decision to scrap sunken frigate #HelgeIngstad as it would cost £12-14Bn NOK to repair her, more than cost of a new ship.

Replacement options being considered.

https://www.nationen.no/politikk/knm-he ... -reparert/

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(I've not looked for an English version of the linked piece)
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Little h wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:34 am NavyLookout
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A write off…

Norwegian Defence Ministry has formally announced decision to scrap sunken frigate #HelgeIngstad as it would cost £12-14Bn NOK to repair her, more than cost of a new ship.

Replacement options being considered.

https://www.nationen.no/politikk/knm-he ... -reparert/

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(I've not looked for an English version of the linked piece)
Thanks for the update Harry , such a very expensive lesson learnt there which they will be able to address the costs from in part from the defects which unfolded from the recovery [ water tight integrity ?]

Well Harry ...Perhaps if we have a quite word with Jim the Mod he might be able to ask for a translation app on our forum , as it would serve us well on the forum when you consider how many languages we come across :-

Chienese
Dutch
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Hebrew
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USA [and all its derivations]

and not forgetting our Comms boys ......God knows where that falls :roll:
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Perhaps if we have a quite word with Jim the Mod he might be able to ask for a translation app on our forum , as it would serve us well on the forum when you consider how many languages we come across :-

Chienese
Dutch
French
German
Hebrew
Iranian
Japanese
Norwegian
Russian
Sweden
Turkish
USA [and all its derivations]

and not forgetting our Comms boys ......God knows where that falls :roll:
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Google Translate is probably what you need ;)


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Excellent Jim but how do you move it into our forum to activate a translation please :oops:
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An/The article in English:-

Norway officially decides to scrap KNM Helge Ingstad frigate
Norway has officially decided to scrap its F313 frigate KNM « Helge Instad » instead of repairing her, the Norwegian government confirmed on June, 21.

Nathan Gain 24 Jun 2019



“The government has now decided that it is more appropriate to dispose of KNM Helge Ingstad than to repair it,” Norwegian Minister of Defense Frank Bakke-Jensen said in a statement.

According to the Norwegian MoD, the cost of reparation was estimated to be between US$1.4 -1.6 billion, while building a similar vessel would cost around US$1.5 billion.

The disposal of the navy frigate will have significant consequences for Norway’s defense. “We have large sea areas and a long coastline. Good control at sea is absolutely essential in the defense of the country. Therefore, we have been aware all the way that the capacity represented by KNM Helge Ingstad must be re-established,” he said.

The Norwegian Armed Forces have already implemented measures to maintain operational capability in the short term, such as using double crews on the other frigates and on KNM Maud replenishment oiler.

The KNM Helge Ingstad collided with the Malta-registered oil tanker Sola TS on Nov. 8. near Bergen, Norway. In late November, investigators ruled out technical errors in the collision, saying the “preliminary assessment is that the accident was not caused by any single act or event, but can be explained by a series of interacting complex factors and circumstances.”

In late February, Norway started the operation to raise the sunken KNM Helge Ingstad frigate and the vessel arrived at the Haakonsvern naval base in early March.

Source; NAVALNEWS 6 hours ago
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Thank you Harry for your kindness and help with this report , I'm sure we are all very grateful for your patience and assistance with this .
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