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And perhaps 'hanging off' the wings of our F35Bs Harry.
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Pelican wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 9:25 pm And perhaps 'hanging off' the wings of our F35Bs Harry.
.... or whack some onto a squadron/wing/flight of RN Crowsnest Merlins and we won't have to launch any expensive F35B's ... always assuming, that is; the RAF have agreed to release any Lightning II's to the QEC carriers ;)
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BAE Systems and Leonardo have announced new precision-guided ammunition that could see the effective firing range of the Mk 45 naval gun tripled, the same gun that will be fitted to the Type 26 Frigate.

Last year, BAE received a $245 million contract from the Ministry of Defence to provide the gun system, known as the Maritime Indirect Fires System (MIFS), for the Type 26 Global Combat Ship. Under the contract, the company will manufacture three MIFS Integrated Gunnery Systems (IGS) and one trainer system for the UK Royal Navy. The MIFS IGS includes the 5-inch, 62-caliber Mk 45 Mod 4 Naval Gun System, along with an automated ammunition handling system, gun fire control system, and qualified ammunition.

The Mk 45 naval gun is widely used by the US Navy and allied nations.

Joe Senftle, vice president and general manager of Weapon Systems at BAE Systems said:

“As a leading global provider and integrator of all major caliber weapon systems, we are expertly positioned to integrate mission-driven, advanced, and affordable munitions like Vulcano into land and naval gun systems.”

Gianpiero Lorandi, managing director at Leonardo Defence Systems said:

“The Vulcano long-range guided ammunition family — part of the Leonardo’s global offer of naval, land-based, and aeronautical weapon systems for customers worldwide — represents state-of-the-art technology with its unmatched range, accuracy, and effectiveness, which was successfully demonstrated in testing.

Not only is it compatible with 155-mm land and 5-inch naval gun systems, Vulcano can also be easily integrated into current and future platforms such as the AGS — a major benefit.”

John Perri, business development director for advanced weapons at BAE Systems was quoted in DefenseNews:

“With this product, we can achieve a maximum range approaching three times the range of standard ballistic ammunition from the Mk 45 gun, which is in use with the US Navy and 11 other navies around the world.”

BAE say that the Mk 45 Mod 4 currently has a range of more than 20 nautical miles (36 km).

“Starting with DDG 81, Mk 45 Mod 4 is being forward-fit to US Navy DDG 51 Class destroyers. Other Mod 4 applications include installations for the fleets of South Korea, Japan and Denmark.”

Deliveries of the gun to the UK are expected to begin in 2020. Joe Senftle, Vice President and General Manager of Weapon Systems at BAE Systems, said last year:

“Our teams in the US and UK will bring unrivalled skills and expertise to the MIFS development and production. The world-leading Mk 45 will provide the Royal Navy with a proven, reliable, and highly-effective system that is adaptable to firing a wide range of today’s ammunition, as well as future, precision-guided munitions currently in development.”

The Mk 45 is in service with the US Navy and 10 other allied nations. More than 240 Mk 45 guns have been delivered into service globally.

From - https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/bae-leo ... OvKA7X02yU
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Good News eh David.... if it holds up to scrutiny but at what cost ?
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ivorthediver wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 11:30 pm Good News eh David.... if it holds up to scrutiny but at what cost ?
Hopefully more targets hit quicker = less cost Ivor.
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HMS Defender D36; 2019 - test firing of Sea Viper missile

An observation; arising from a link contained within a post by David/Pelican on the Type 45 Destroyer thread.

The antenna/array(?) mounted inside the screen surrounding the Vertical Launch forest (port side fwd) but hitherto never observed on a Type 45, or in images of a Type 45.

2019 Sea Viper test launch Defender D36
2019 HMS Defender D37 web-MB190008007 royalnavy.mod.uk copy.jpg


Compare with the following on HMS Diamond during test firing of Sea Viper missile.

a)
2012 Sea Viper test launch - Diamond D34
The antenna/array(?) mounted (port side fwd) inside the screen surrounding the Vertical Launch forest

2012 HMS Diamond D34 Sea Viper test firing You Tube Screenshot (4463).png



b)
2017 Sea Viper test launch - Diamond D34
The antenna/array(?) mounted (port side aft) inside the screen surrounding the Vertical Launch forest

2017 HMS Diamond D34 Sea Viper youtube Screenshot (4467).png
2017 HMS Diamond D34 youtube Sea Viper Screenshot (4468).png


Function(?); might it be a data link (omni-directional) - related to the missile test firing(?) ... that is of course if it is an antenna/ array.

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Remember this:-

1982 HMS Cardiff D108 Type 42 Destroyer - Falklands campaign/war
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In Defense Media Network an article titled:- The Falklands War in Retrospect - Hard lessons from a small war - By Norman Friedman - April 2, 2015 - the same photograph carried the Caption:-

A live Sea Dart missile on the British destroyer HMS Cardiff, months after the the end of the Falklands War. The telemetry receiving antenna can clearly be seen sitting on the top of the 4.5-inch gun. The gun would be trained to follow the acquiring Type 909 radar and therefore always be aligned to follow the missile and thus pick up the telemetry data. The Sea Dart proved less than ideal as a weapon against low-level high-speed targets merging with the ground clutter. Photo by Griffiths911
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Royal Marines use Lightweight Multirole Missile to take out drone

Royal Marines have tested the Lightweight Multirole Missile against a drone.
The missile is fired from a small shoulder launcher and the operator guides it using a joystick which controls a laser beam on which the projectile flies.
LMM was initially conceived as Thales’ response to the MoD’s Future Air-to-Surface Guided Weapon (Light) requirement. LMM has been designed to be launched from a variety of naval, air and land platforms against a wide range of targets.
“It gives us more utility across the battlefield and gives the brigade a different option.” Said Captain James O’Rourke, Officer Commanding of Air Defence Troop, in a news release.
“It means we can start enabling attacks on targets that won’t be able to see us. It’s got a laser beam system as well and it’s a passive system so we won’t be spotted by the enemy when we pull the trigger.”
From, which includes images - https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/royal-m ... LzGMTWSiwc
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I would hate to see what a LARGE shoulder launcher looks like if that is the small one ;-)

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jbryce1437 wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:06 pm I would hate to see what a LARGE shoulder launcher looks like if that is the small one ;-)

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There is of course also this one Jim:-
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(from the article in royalnavy.mod.uk)


Royal Marines unleash new lightweight missiles
04 July 2019

Royal Marines have tested their ability to take out airborne targets with a new missile system on the ranges in south Wales.

Air Defence Troop of Plymouth-based 30 Commando IX Group are the first sub unit to use the fresh-out-the-packet Lightweight Multirole Missile (LMM) system.

Drones were launched and, from a platform looking out to sea, the commandos used the laser-guided missiles to accurately hone in on their targets.

The missile is fired from a small shoulder launcher and the operator guides it using a joystick which controls a laser beam on which the projectile flies.

“It gives us more utility across the battlefield and gives the brigade a different option.” Said Captain James O’Rourke, Officer Commanding of Air Defence Troop.

The new missile – which can travel more than 6km – is intended to replace the High Velocity Missile (HVM) currently used by the marines and Royal Artillery.


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"Air Defence Royal Marines is the first sub unit to use this missile. Currently we’ve had 18 successful shots against the Banshee drone. I think in the future we’ll be attached to close combat rifle companies, pushing forward and potentially targeting Unmanned Aerial Systems and Unmanned Aerial Vehicles in the skies as opposed to sticking with fixed wing rotary targets."

Captain James O’Rourke, Officer Commanding of Air Defence Troop
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The LMM travels at half the speed of the old one but it allows for greater accuracy as the operator has more time to close in on the target. It is also lighter.

“It means we can start enabling attacks on targets that won’t be able to see us. It’s got a laser beam system as well and it’s a passive system so we won’t be spotted by the enemy when we pull the trigger,” added Capt O’Rourke.

The exercise took place at the Air Defence Range Manorbier in southwest Wales.

The target Banshee drones are fast and small and are designed to be missed and survive multiple missile runs. They trail smoke to help the operator locate it due to its small size.

The miss distance is then measured using radar and if the missile is within a certain distance of the drone then the engagement is deemed a success.

The first missile fired destroyed the target so they then fired at other Banshees using an ‘optical wedge’ which puts the operators aim off a tiny bit and saves target drones but still allows the Royal Artillery instructors and Thales technicians to gauge the success of the engagement.

LMM can be mounted on vehicles, ships and helicopters and can be used against surface and air targets.
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Thanks Harry, thats more like it :-)


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