RN Ironclads
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RN Ironclads
Ironclad Turret Ship HMS Neptune...She was originally designed and built by J & W Dudgeon Ltd Shipyards, Cubitt Town, London in 1874 for Brazil, but acquired for the Royal Navy in 1878. Modifications to suit the Royal Navy took three years to complete and the ship did not begin her first commission until 1883 with the Channel Fleet. She was transferred to the Mediterranean Fleet in 1885, but refitted in Portsmouth in 1886–87. Neptune then became the Coastguard Ship (pictured) for the 1st Class Reserve at Holyhead until 1893 when she was placed in reserve in Portsmouth. While she was being towed to the breakers in 1903, Neptune unintentionally rammed HMS Victory, then serving as a Training Hulk for the Naval Signal School, collided with HMS Hero, and narrowly missed several other ships. She was scrapped in Germany in 1904.
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Bloody good job she was to , was this a fore runner of what was to come
and I wonder what the scrap was used on over there . ![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
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Re: RN Ironclads:
Ajax class ironclads, HMS Ajax and Agamemnon
Ajax
Agamemnon
Ajax
Agamemnon
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HMS Raleigh 1963 , HMS Collingwood 1963 & 67 , HMS Ark Royal 1964-7, HMS Undaunted 1968-71, HMS Victory (Fleet Maintenance Group) 1971-72, HMS Exmouth 1972-74
JEM, EM, OEM, LOEM, POOEL
Then 28 years in the Fire Brigade
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JEM, EM, OEM, LOEM, POOEL
Then 28 years in the Fire Brigade
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Colossus class ironclad HMS Colossus and Edinburgh
Colossus
Edinburgh
Colossus
Edinburgh
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HMS Raleigh 1963 , HMS Collingwood 1963 & 67 , HMS Ark Royal 1964-7, HMS Undaunted 1968-71, HMS Victory (Fleet Maintenance Group) 1971-72, HMS Exmouth 1972-74
JEM, EM, OEM, LOEM, POOEL
Then 28 years in the Fire Brigade
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JEM, EM, OEM, LOEM, POOEL
Then 28 years in the Fire Brigade
Retired since 2002
- jbryce1437
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Admiral Class ironclads; HMS Collingwood, Anson, Camperdown, Howe, Rodney and Benbow
Anson
Benbow
Camperdown
Collingwood
Howe
Rodney
Anson
Benbow
Camperdown
Collingwood
Howe
Rodney
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HMS Raleigh 1963 , HMS Collingwood 1963 & 67 , HMS Ark Royal 1964-7, HMS Undaunted 1968-71, HMS Victory (Fleet Maintenance Group) 1971-72, HMS Exmouth 1972-74
JEM, EM, OEM, LOEM, POOEL
Then 28 years in the Fire Brigade
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JEM, EM, OEM, LOEM, POOEL
Then 28 years in the Fire Brigade
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Re: RN Ironclads:
How to build an iron clad battleship, 1-oh-1....brought to you by the Royal Navy!!
Further back than my main naval interests lie, but sure VERY INTERESTING!! Thanks
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Re: RN Ironclads:
Great collection there Jim , and thanks for sharing them with us , your a star ................
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Lead Ship,Second Class Battleship HMS Colossus pictured c1887.
Built at Portsmouth Dockyard and launched in 1882 and commissioned in 1886. She had a displacement of 9,520 tons, and an armament of 4 × 12-inch breechloaders, 5 × 6-inch guns and had a speed of 15.5 knots.
She was one of the first, if not the first, modern Battleship. She had several features which would be standard for all gun warships up to the Second World War including all steel construction, a main battery of breech loading major caliber guns (ie. 10 inches or greater) mounted in turrets and was propelled only by steam engines instead of a combination of steam and sails - as was common in the mid-19th century.
Service history
She served in the Mediterranean Fleet, from her commission in 1886 to 1893 when she then became a Coastguard Ship. In 1895 she was part of the 1st Reserve Squadron. Captain Samuel Arthur Johnson was in command from March 1897 to March 1900, when she was coastguard ship at Holyhead.
She was paid off in November 1901 and placed in reserve, her crew transferred to HMS Resolution which took over as Guardship at Holyhead.Commander Rowland Nugent was appointed in command of the ship on February 25th 1902, and from August she had a refit at the Thames Ironworks & Shipbuilding Company Shipyards.In 1904, she was re-commissioned as a Tender to HMS Excellent. Colossus was put up for sale in 1906, finally being broken up in 1908.
Built at Portsmouth Dockyard and launched in 1882 and commissioned in 1886. She had a displacement of 9,520 tons, and an armament of 4 × 12-inch breechloaders, 5 × 6-inch guns and had a speed of 15.5 knots.
She was one of the first, if not the first, modern Battleship. She had several features which would be standard for all gun warships up to the Second World War including all steel construction, a main battery of breech loading major caliber guns (ie. 10 inches or greater) mounted in turrets and was propelled only by steam engines instead of a combination of steam and sails - as was common in the mid-19th century.
Service history
She served in the Mediterranean Fleet, from her commission in 1886 to 1893 when she then became a Coastguard Ship. In 1895 she was part of the 1st Reserve Squadron. Captain Samuel Arthur Johnson was in command from March 1897 to March 1900, when she was coastguard ship at Holyhead.
She was paid off in November 1901 and placed in reserve, her crew transferred to HMS Resolution which took over as Guardship at Holyhead.Commander Rowland Nugent was appointed in command of the ship on February 25th 1902, and from August she had a refit at the Thames Ironworks & Shipbuilding Company Shipyards.In 1904, she was re-commissioned as a Tender to HMS Excellent. Colossus was put up for sale in 1906, finally being broken up in 1908.
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Turret Ironclad Battleship HMS Monarch pictured at Queen Victoria's Golden Jubilee,Spithead Naval Review,July 23rd 1887.
Monarch was the first seagoing British warship to carry her guns in turrets, and to carry guns of 12-inch calibre.
She was designed by Sir Edward Reed, at a time when the basic configuration of Battleship design was undergoing major change simultaneously in many aspects. Sail was gradually giving way to steam, wooden hulls had just been superseded by iron, smoothbore artillery firing round-shot had been overtaken by rifled shell-firing cannon, increasingly heavier armour was being mounted, and there was mounting agitation in naval design circles to abandon broadside armament in favour of that mounted in turrets. In this melting-pot, any Battleship design was fated to be a compromise, and the design of Monarch proved to be so.
Having determined that Monarch would carry her main artillery in turrets, the Board of Admiralty then stipulated that, as she was destined for overseas service, and steam engines were not at that time wholly reliable, she must carry a full ship-rig and be fitted with a forecastle. Reed objected to this concept, which had the effect of totally preventing the main artillery from firing on any other angle than on the port and starboard beams. He was overruled, and is reported to have taken little pride in the resulting ship. He himself wrote, in 1869 'no satisfactorily designed turret ship has yet been built, or even laid down.....the middle of the upper deck of a full-rigged ship is not a very eligible place for fighting large guns'. In 1871 Reed stated to the Committee on Designs that he wanted on a turret ship no poop and no forecastle, and masts carrying at most light rig past which the guns could fire fore or aft on the centre-line.
Monarch was the first seagoing British warship to carry her guns in turrets, and to carry guns of 12-inch calibre.
She was designed by Sir Edward Reed, at a time when the basic configuration of Battleship design was undergoing major change simultaneously in many aspects. Sail was gradually giving way to steam, wooden hulls had just been superseded by iron, smoothbore artillery firing round-shot had been overtaken by rifled shell-firing cannon, increasingly heavier armour was being mounted, and there was mounting agitation in naval design circles to abandon broadside armament in favour of that mounted in turrets. In this melting-pot, any Battleship design was fated to be a compromise, and the design of Monarch proved to be so.
Having determined that Monarch would carry her main artillery in turrets, the Board of Admiralty then stipulated that, as she was destined for overseas service, and steam engines were not at that time wholly reliable, she must carry a full ship-rig and be fitted with a forecastle. Reed objected to this concept, which had the effect of totally preventing the main artillery from firing on any other angle than on the port and starboard beams. He was overruled, and is reported to have taken little pride in the resulting ship. He himself wrote, in 1869 'no satisfactorily designed turret ship has yet been built, or even laid down.....the middle of the upper deck of a full-rigged ship is not a very eligible place for fighting large guns'. In 1871 Reed stated to the Committee on Designs that he wanted on a turret ship no poop and no forecastle, and masts carrying at most light rig past which the guns could fire fore or aft on the centre-line.
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Lead Ship,Ironclad Battleship HMS Belleisle pictured in 1879.
She was one of the four ships currently under construction at the time for foreign navies in British Shipyards which were purchased by the British government for the Royal Navy in 1878, at the time of the Russian war scare. She was one of the two Ironclads of the Belleisle Class, the other being HMS Orion. She was built at Samuda Brothers Shipyard at Cubitt Town, London, for service with the Ottoman Navy, under the name of Peik-i-Sheref, and was taken over for the Royal Navy in a completed condition. She was, however, not regarded as fit to serve as a British warship until a number of extensive and expensive modifications were carried out. She had been intended to carry 10-inch calibre guns, and the first recorded change was 'enlargement of ports to take 25-ton guns' (i.e. guns of 12-inch calibre). Other major alterations included the building in of extra coal bunkers, the fitting of extra officers' cabins and the fitting of torpedo launching apparatus.
The main artillery was disposed in a centrally placed octagonal box battery with two guns on each beam. The firing ports were so arranged that it was possible to fire two guns ahead, astern and on a limited bearing on either side. There were limited areas fore and abaft the beam where only one gun could be brought to bear; as the primary armament of this ship, as devised and designed, was her ram, this was regarded by her designer as an acceptable limitation.
Being smaller than other contemporary British battleships, she and her sister HMS Orion had comparatively limited range, speed and armament compared to them. However they were initially welcomed by the naval press as being inexpensive, costing only half that of an Audacious Class Battleship and a third of HMS Inflexible, but once her drawbacks became obvious they damned her in popular and naval opinion as a front-line fighting vessel.
She was commissioned on July 2nd 1878, and served for the next fourteen years as Coastguard Ship at Kingstown, Ireland. Her only activity there was firing practice four times a year, the annual squadron cruise, and one refit at Devonport. In 1887.
She paid off into the B Reserve in April 1893, descending into the Fleet Reserve in May 1894. She was paid off in May 1900 and converted into a Target Ship.
After surviving gunfire from HMS Majestic in which shells filled with lyddite were tested, she was towed back to Portsmouth. There, she was used to test the effect of guns of 6-inch and of 9.2 inch calibre, and of torpedoes. The torpedo experiments were expected to demonstrate the protective effect of cellulose against these weapons; the cellulose was expected to swell and plug the holes caused by the torpedoes. This did not happen, and Belleisle sank into the mud. She was raised with difficulty in October 1903 and sold for scrap to Germany.
She was one of the four ships currently under construction at the time for foreign navies in British Shipyards which were purchased by the British government for the Royal Navy in 1878, at the time of the Russian war scare. She was one of the two Ironclads of the Belleisle Class, the other being HMS Orion. She was built at Samuda Brothers Shipyard at Cubitt Town, London, for service with the Ottoman Navy, under the name of Peik-i-Sheref, and was taken over for the Royal Navy in a completed condition. She was, however, not regarded as fit to serve as a British warship until a number of extensive and expensive modifications were carried out. She had been intended to carry 10-inch calibre guns, and the first recorded change was 'enlargement of ports to take 25-ton guns' (i.e. guns of 12-inch calibre). Other major alterations included the building in of extra coal bunkers, the fitting of extra officers' cabins and the fitting of torpedo launching apparatus.
The main artillery was disposed in a centrally placed octagonal box battery with two guns on each beam. The firing ports were so arranged that it was possible to fire two guns ahead, astern and on a limited bearing on either side. There were limited areas fore and abaft the beam where only one gun could be brought to bear; as the primary armament of this ship, as devised and designed, was her ram, this was regarded by her designer as an acceptable limitation.
Being smaller than other contemporary British battleships, she and her sister HMS Orion had comparatively limited range, speed and armament compared to them. However they were initially welcomed by the naval press as being inexpensive, costing only half that of an Audacious Class Battleship and a third of HMS Inflexible, but once her drawbacks became obvious they damned her in popular and naval opinion as a front-line fighting vessel.
She was commissioned on July 2nd 1878, and served for the next fourteen years as Coastguard Ship at Kingstown, Ireland. Her only activity there was firing practice four times a year, the annual squadron cruise, and one refit at Devonport. In 1887.
She paid off into the B Reserve in April 1893, descending into the Fleet Reserve in May 1894. She was paid off in May 1900 and converted into a Target Ship.
After surviving gunfire from HMS Majestic in which shells filled with lyddite were tested, she was towed back to Portsmouth. There, she was used to test the effect of guns of 6-inch and of 9.2 inch calibre, and of torpedoes. The torpedo experiments were expected to demonstrate the protective effect of cellulose against these weapons; the cellulose was expected to swell and plug the holes caused by the torpedoes. This did not happen, and Belleisle sank into the mud. She was raised with difficulty in October 1903 and sold for scrap to Germany.
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