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The Royal Navy's 89 ships pales into insignificance, but I can't see the need for many more at this present time.

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jbryce1437 wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:59 pm The Royal Navy's 89 ships pales into insignificance, but I can't see the need for many more at this present time.

Jim
Old Moore's Almanack - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Moore%27s_Almanack - in an edition published between WW I and WW II predicted "The yellow man will rule the world" but did not predict a date.
Its not size that matters Jim but in this case effectiveness?
In the bigger picture the reason that the U.S. told Nato, in affect, 'row your own boat because we are going to concentrate on the western Pacific.'
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Why Chinese Navy sets up support base in Djibouti

The Chinese Navy will soon establish its first overseas support base in Djibouti, as ships carrying military personnel for the base left Zhanjiang in southern China's Guangdong Province for the Horn of Africa country on Tuesday. The base will enable China to better fulfill its international obligations in conducting escort missions, peacekeeping and humanitarian aid in the Gulf of Aden and the waters off Somalia, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said at a regular press briefing on Wednesday.

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Looks like their neighbours in Sudan will be the Russians, with their new base.

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jbryce1437 wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:29 pm Looks like their neighbours in Sudan will be the Russians, with their new base.

Jim
Yes Jim - http://lewin-of-greenwich-naval-history ... 3&start=20 - plus the USN upgrading in Pearl harbour we will need a new 'subject' along the lines of Global developments of various Navies.
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Third Chinese Aircraft Carrier Nears Completion Amid Shipyard Expansion
Work begins on fourth carrier, but future plans remain murky.

A major Shanghai shipyard is being significantly expanded amid news that work has begun there on China’s fourth aircraft carrier.

The South China Morning Post (SCMP) reports that the Jiangnan shipyard is beginning a three-year expansion that will include a new ship design and research center, additional workshops, fabrication facilities, quays, and other shipbuilding infrastructure. Some of the new shipyard will support the yard’s commercial vessel work but much appears to be focused on the aircraft carrier building program of the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN).

China’s first aircraft carrier, the Type 001 Liaoning, was rebuilt on a gutted, unfinished Ukrainian aircraft carrier hull and might be considered a modernized variant of the Soviet Kuznetsov-class carrier. China built an improved version of the Liaoning, designated the Type 001A, which it named the Shandong.

PLAN’s third and fourth carriers will be an entirely new design called the Type 002. They are expected to be much larger than the Liaoning and Shandong, and unlike those ships, which use ramps to assist planes in take-off, are reported to feature electromagnetic catapults.

Catapult-equipped ships can launch larger, heavier aircraft, and those aircraft use less fuel in take-off so they can carry more weapons and can fly longer and farther before needing to return. Most U.S. Navy aircraft carriers utilize steam-driven catapults. The new Ford-class carriers feature electromagnetic catapults, which are stronger and more efficient than steam.

SCMP also reports that assembly of the first Type 002 will be completed in the first half of this year and that construction of the second is in its early stages. Even though assembly could soon be finished, the Type 002 may not to be ready for operational service until mid-decade. Full outfitting and sea trials could take a year or more, and then its crew will have to train and certify the ship, which is likely to take longer because it is a new design and fitted with new technology.

Some observers describe this new progress as an acceleration of China’s naval shipbuilding plans, despite reports that construction was hitting roadblocks and tight budgets were forcing PLAN to scale back its ambitions. But so far this progress aligns with reporting from a year ago that the two planned Type 002 carriers would be completed, but plans for a fifth carrier of a new design, the Type 003, were being put on hold.

Reports of technical difficulties with the Type 002s does not preclude the ships from being assembled, but it could mean that their final fitting-out and sea trials will take much longer than expected to complete.

The U.S. Navy’s USS Gerald R. Ford faced similar “first-in-class” technical hurdles. After the ship was launched in 2013, it was not commissioned by the Navy until 2017 after lengthy repairs and rework required by the ship’s untested technology were completed. The ship’s first planned deployment has shifted from 2018 to 2020, to now possibly being ready in 2022.

The Type 003 design is especially challenging because it is expected to be PLAN’s first nuclear-powered surface ship. The expanding Jiangnan shipyard might signal optimism in the Type 003’s design but if not, China could opt to build a third Type 002. If the Type 003 is completed, the PLAN will have four significantly different carrier designs, which will create a major logistical and maintenance challenge to keeping its carrier fleet operating.

To help alleviate that maintenance burden, work appears to be nearly complete on a new, giant dry dock and repair yard on Hainan Island in the South China Sea that will be large enough to accommodate the Type 002 and Type 003 carriers.

If the carriers are completed, PLAN’s next challenge will be training a sufficient cadre of new pilots and crew to operate the giant new vessels. It will also have to overcome persistent challenges in the design and manufacture of a next-generation jet fighter to take full advantage of the Type 002’s catapult capability.

See also - Chinese Navy Expanding Bases Near South China Sea - at:
https://news.usni.org/2020/12/29/chines ... -china-sea

Source, which contains more relevant links:
https://thediplomat.com/2021/01/third-c ... C1Zyy8xqb8
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China's first carrier-based early warning plane continues flight tests: report

China's first domestically developed fixed-wing early warning aircraft capable of taking off and landing on aircraft carriers recently conducted another successful flight test, state media revealed for the first time on Sunday, and Chinese military experts said they expect the plane to operate on large aircraft carriers equipped with catapults.

The KJ-600 carrier-based early warning aircraft made a successful test flight in Xi'an, capital of Northwest China's Shaanxi Province, on January 27, the China Central Television (CCTV) reported.

Local residents on the ground were able to take pictures of the KJ-600 during its flight, CCTV reported.

It is a medium-sized early warning aircraft with two engines similar to the US' E-2 Hawkeye series, said Song Xinzhi, a Chinese military expert, in the CCTV program.

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Satellite image shows China deployed 7 Nuclear submarine to counter USA

Recently, according to a report published on “hisutton”, Google Earth’s commercial captured the photos of Chinese Navy’s 7 nuclear submarines at the Yulin Naval Base in Hainan, China. Judging from the time on the photo, it was taken on January 20, 2021, about 2 months ago. In addition, the nuclear submarine birth at Yulin Naval Base so its public, so these photos do not constitute a leak.

From the photos taken by Google earth, 4 out of 7 nuclear submarines are attack nuclear submarines and 3 are strategic missile nuclear submarines. Attacking nuclear submarines are mainly “Jin”-class ballistic missile nuclear submarines and “Han”-class attack nuclear submarines, while strategic missile nuclear submarines are “Shang”-class ballistic missile nuclear submarines. Tstrategic missile nuclear submarines are generally bigger than attack nuclear submarines.

Yulin Naval Base is part of the large-scale military base of the Chinese Navy in Sanya. The entire Sanya large-scale naval base is the “base camp” of the Chinese Navy’s South China Sea Fleet. After years of construction, the current large-scale naval base in Sanya has been relatively complete. In addition to the nuclear submarine base, it is also an important aircraft carrier base and destroyer base for the South China Sea Fleet of the Chinese Navy, and the H-6 bomber fleet and the J-16 in the surrounding supporting air force bases. The fleet can also go out to fight in the South China Sea at any time.

At present, the United States’ armed forces in the South China Sea are mainly the US Navy’s aircraft carrier battle group and nuclear submarine force, in addition to the long-range strategic bombers that took off from the Guam military base. Because the USS Ronald Reagan nuclear-powered aircraft carrier is stationed in Japan, the number of aircraft carriers that the U.S. Navy can call at will in the South China Sea is 2, plus the 15th nuclear submarine force deployed at the Guam military base. SO This is the complete strength of United States navy currently in the South China Sea.

Currently the main strentgh of China against US aircraft carriers in the South China Sea are China’s “DF-21D” anti-ship ballistic missiles and “DF-26” anti-ship ballistic missiles. Of course, the U.S. Navy thinks so too, so it has also begun to study countermeasures against China’s anti-ship ballistic missiles. For example, according to a report in the American “Modern Diplomacy” magazine, the U.S. Navy had deployed a “Los Angeles”-class cruise missile nuclear submarine capable of carrying 154 submarine-launched “Tomahawk” cruise missiles in the South China Sea. Countering China’s anti-ship ballistic missiles. And recently after 25 years US navy started to equipped their submarines with cruise missile.

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Commander and XO observe the Chinese Aircraft Carrier Liaoning from Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missile Destroyer USS Mustin, Philippine Sea April 2021.
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China's 3 new naval ships: What are they and why are they important?

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