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Re: Carrier Kuznetsov

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:14 pm
by Little h
ivorthediver wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:06 pm Any further news on this yet Dennis :o
🇷🇺#Russian #Navy The floating dock PD-50 of the Shipyard №82 after the incident. Cargo cranes are missing.The floating dock completely sank. October 30, 2018.

Ivor,

You can keep abreast of events on this one (and other RFS issues) with Capt(N) @Capt_Navy on twitter.

Hope that is of use.

Re: Aircraft Carriers: Kuznetsov

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:15 pm
by ivorthediver
Your A Gem Harry , thanks for keeping an Eye on me mate , be interesting to see how they get out of this pickle ;)

Re: Aircraft Carriers: Kuznetsov

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:34 pm
by Little h
#ВМФ #СФ🇷🇺#Russian #Navy The new photos ⚠️ of the collapsed cargo crane of floating dock on the flight deck of an RFS 063 ‘Admiral Kuznetsov’ aircraft carrier. Photo by ©Pavel Lvov via @milinfolive
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One of four images that can be seen in this further link to Capt(N) on Twitter

Re: Aircraft Carriers: Kuznetsov

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:43 pm
by ivorthediver
can't understand why it fell as from where viewed it look us though it were cut through Harry :|

Re: Aircraft Carriers: Kuznetsov

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:56 pm
by Little h
ivorthediver wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:43 pm can't understand why it fell as from where viewed it look us though it were cut through Harry :|
Tipped over off its rails(?) as can be seen in one of the other photos - showing the underside of the bogey staring down the camera lens ... then drydock disappears into the murky yonder, leaving the crane, jib, bogey-and-all left nicely lodged across the flightdeck, not far fwd from the stern flightdeck round down.
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Re: Aircraft Carriers: Kuznetsov

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:05 pm
by ivorthediver
Ahhh thats a better view , but if thats the case as can now be seen, it beggars the question of what the Hell was it trying to lift :o

Re: Aircraft Carriers: Kuznetsov

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:50 pm
by designeraccd
The "news" I've read stated that the drydock was trimming down so KUZ could be floated out when a "generator failed" triggering this fubar......? Nothing about either crane lifting at the time. :? DFO

Re: Aircraft Carriers: Kuznetsov

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:01 pm
by ivorthediver
Thanks Dennis ...........Sorry did we get you up :lol: .........thanks for looking in and helping again 8-)

Hmmm sounds like someone is covering their collective arse's , as I can't think how else the crane could have been demounted

Re: Aircraft Carriers: Kuznetsov

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:54 pm
by designeraccd
oopz:


Russian carrier Admiral Kuznetsov in dock (Source: PressaTV)


"Russia’s sole aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, suffered another mishap while undergoing overhaul work (capitalny remont) at a dockyard in Roslyakovo, near Murmansk. The Kuznetsov was being renovated while moored inside floating dock PD-50—the biggest such dock in Russia and one of the largest in the world. On October 30, the PD-50—which is much bigger than the Kuznetsov and designed to handle and elevate out of the water ships with a deadweight of up to 80,000 tons—suddenly began to list at an increasingly dangerous angle as its tanks chaotically took on water. One of the PD-50’s two 70-ton cranes fell onto the deck of the Kuznetsov, causing damage. The second crane apparently fell into the water and sank to the bottom. The PD-50 did not capsize; the Kuznetsov floated as water filled the dock and was successfully dragged (tugged) out to a nearby pier of a military shipyard. The PD-50 continued to take on water and eventually went under, some four hours after the calamity was first reported to port authorities. One shipyard worker has been listed as missing and is considered dead; four other workers were injured, one of them critically (Kommersant, October 31).

Russia’s state-owned shipbuilding monopoly, the United Shipbuilding Corporation (Obyedinenaya Sudostroitelnaya Kampanya or OSK), immediately went into public crisis-management mode, telling the press first that the damage to the Kuznetsov was manageable and would “not undermine plans to return the vessel back to active service in 2021.” The OSK’s president, Alexei Rakhmanov, insisted the renovation work on Russia’s only carrier will continue as planned, but at a pier. OSK officials blamed the PD-50 disaster on power shortages that apparently caused the water pumps of the floating dock to malfunction (Interfax, October 30). Local electrical power authorities in the Murmansk region deny that the shipyard where the PD-50 was moored with the Kuznetsov inside had suffered any power shortages on October 30. Moreover, the PD-50 has its own inbuilt power generators, which should have kicked in and saved the ship. Russia’s investigative committee began legal procedures and may be pressing criminal charges (Interfax, November 1). The OSK’s management seems terrified of the Kremlin’s wrath and is seeking ways to shift blame, as the PD-50 disaster could seriously undermine President Vladimir Putin’s plans to make Russia a great military and naval power once again."

Apparently listed to port n down by bow; over go BOTH cranes. oh my.........DFO

Re: Aircraft Carriers: Kuznetsov

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:28 pm
by ivorthediver
Well that was no big surprise was it Dennis....we guessed as much , but it looks as thou someone is in deep water [ along with the gantry ;) ]

thanks for the informative post and letting us in on the state secret