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ivorthediver wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 8:19 pm
DaveH wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 7:58 pm I am following you closely Deeps ........... However do you not mean "Clinker" Type . That denotes the construction method for the vessels in question . ??


However in fairness these picture show both types Dave , but the Douro type are the only " Clinter " type where the other are as you say "Clinker" design and not the true Douro Port delivery style boats
Well if ever a wrong interpretation was made it was this.

I took the reference "but the Douro type are the only 'Clinter' type" to mean that a/the boat named "Douro Vintage" P-243-AL would be a 'Douro type' with that name - result:- wot-ah-mistake-ah-to-make-ah :oops:

It appears that the boat P-74-AL is however the real thing with as one site puts it:-
"As a mountain riverboat, the Rabelo has no keel, it is flat-bottomed and measures between 19 and 23 meters long. From the way it is built, using superimposed crunched planks, specialists concluded it was inspired by Nordic models, contrasting with Mediterranean vessels.
Source; an article titled:-2017-01-26 Rabelo Boats or Viking boats? in A2Z Portugal hiking & biking
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ivorthediver wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 11:12 am Yes indeed Dave , but you know our man must have his facts in pristine condition and correctness ...bless him , but I also took the trouble to check out his source of information before going to print, suspecting some pedantic references to be made

Having been there I'm sure you will have seen the vessels to which I refer to ,as well as Clinker built variants, but knowing clinker boats as were used in the Navy [i.e. Whalers for one ] I was well aware of their name and design , but until seeing these Douro boats being made had not appreciated the difference until seen first hand .

The phrase "Clinter Built" is shown in a very good guide book I stumbled across and purchased whilst out there which described this style which seems to be unique to the Rabelo boat , and if he cares to check page 22 of said book it defines this specific style as the Rabelo boat as I did in the 1st post of this thread ,..... I haven't invented it....... it is what it is...... as other pictures will I hope illustrate.... as well as Clinker built boats ;)
Oi Oi wots all this then ITD ... talking in the 3rd person ... I am on here you know ... trying (although it seems not very successfully) to contribute to the/your thread.
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Good Morning Harry ,

Ivor just wrote :-
I unlike you, do not have either the knowledge nor the resources to spend endless hours researching , and thereby I tend to rely on other Self appointed experts to furnish that information and use it in good faith trusting their greater knowledge on the topic .

Life being what it is.... their will always be those who .....for whatever reason....will contest that information... so be it ....but that dont make me the villain if acting in good faith now does it ?

This is not the blueprint for Britains next GTA missile , just an observed peculiarity of a know design that I thought would be of interest to old salts who may never have seen one and , as the replies confirm , is the case .

So in that context lets acknowledge the fact that this vessel style does exist , and leave it at that eh.

and if you chose to respond to this response don't just clip out the bits that support your argument but the whole response please !
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Whoa boyz .......wind inda nex . weese all mates on year .... I donna wanna see ani powder puff chukin ..... :o :o :shock: :? :| :|

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Puff stowed mucker , and incident erased from memory ........Ah ....theres me dummy ;)
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ivorthediver wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 7:15 am Good Morning Harry ,

Ivor just wrote :-
I unlike you, do not have either the knowledge nor the resources to spend endless hours researching , and thereby I tend to rely on other Self appointed experts to furnish that information and use it in good faith trusting their greater knowledge on the topic .

Life being what it is.... their will always be those who .....for whatever reason....will contest that information... so be it ....but that dont make me the villain if acting in good faith now does it ?

This is not the blueprint for Britains next GTA missile , just an observed peculiarity of a know design that I thought would be of interest to old salts who may never have seen one and , as the replies confirm , is the case .

So in that context lets acknowledge the fact that this vessel style does exist , and leave it at that eh.

and if you chose to respond to this response don't just clip out the bits that support your argument but the whole response please !


Goood Afternoon Ivor.

Re; So in that context lets acknowledge the fact that this vessel style does exist

Not much more I can do since a) I have admitted to have completely misread/misinterpreted the wording in article/posts and b) have already admitted that the smooth sided boat type exist; see my earlier post copied below:-

Little h wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 9:26 pm
ivorthediver wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 8:19 pm
DaveH wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 7:58 pm I am following you closely Deeps ........... However do you not mean "Clinker" Type . That denotes the construction method for the vessels in question . ??


However in fairness these picture show both types Dave , but the Douro type are the only " Clinter " type where the other are as you say "Clinker" design and not the true Douro Port delivery style boats


Well if ever a wrong interpretation was made it was this.

I took the reference "but the Douro type are the only 'Clinter' type" to mean that a/the boat named "Douro Vintage" P-243-AL would be a 'Douro type' with that name - result:- wot-ah-mistake-ah-to-make-ah :oops:

It appears that the boat P-74-AL is however the real thing with as one site puts it:-
"As a mountain riverboat, the Rabelo has no keel, it is flat-bottomed and measures between 19 and 23 meters long. From the way it is built, using superimposed crunched planks, specialists concluded it was inspired by Nordic models, contrasting with Mediterranean vessels.
Source; an article titled:-2017-01-26 Rabelo Boats or Viking boats? in A2Z Portugal hiking & biking
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Ok moving onward here are a few more random shots that were taken where access could be taken , so not the close ups I would have liked , but having said that the site is very cluttered , but it is their work site after all ;) sorry they are not as crisp as I would have wished , but they give you a feel for the subject I hope .
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Ok getting towards the end of the boatyard now , so here are a few more to give you a feel for the yard mentioned ......
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And the adjacent quayside used by the Douro river Cruises [various ] berth , some times 3 abreast and 2 in line , they look very plush but I am told you could be looking at £4000.00 for a shared suite in high season .............way...... way outside our pocket , but Karen managed to get a Day trip up to the first two Dams / locks on the Douro up as far as the vineyards for 100 Euros which included two meals and return Rail tickets , and a trip around another vineyard at one of the berthing points further up , so no complaints there bless her .
Staggering scenery in beautiful verdant hillside vineyards that came down to the water's edge almost .....can only say if you ever get the chance GO .

Some where I have a couple of shots of dredgers and very old 60's tug which I will dig out later
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