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Pelican
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Royal Navy help in hunt for missing Argentinian submarine 'invaluable'
The San Juan might not have been found if it had not been for British military assistance, the boss of the search firm says.
See - https://news.sky.com/story/royal-navy-h ... mDiRrZE0zo

Also for info present Argentine navy:
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... zation.htm
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Rivadavia Class Dreadnought Battleship ARA Moreno pictured at the 1937 Coronation Review at Spithead.
She was designed by the American Fore River Shipbuilding Company for the Argentine Navy.
Argentina placed orders for Moreno and its only Sister Ship, ARA Rivadavia , in reply to a Brazilian naval building program. During their construction, the two Dreadnoughts were subject to numerous rumors involving Argentina selling the two Battleships to a country engaged in the First World War, but these proved to be false. After Moreno was completed in March 1915, a series of engine problems occurred during the sea trials which delayed her delivery to Argentina to May 1915. The next decade saw the ship based in Puerto Belgrano as part of the Argentine Navy's First Division before sailing to the United States for an extensive refit in 1924 and 1925. During the 1930s the ship was occupied with diplomatic cruises to Brazil, Uruguay, and Europe until the Second World War broke out. During this time, Moreno was employed little as Argentina was neutral. Decommissioned in 1949, Moreno was scrapped in Japan beginning in 1957.
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Lead Ship,Battleship ARA Rivadavia pictured post her major modernisation refit of 1926.
In 1923, the Navy decided to send Rivadavia to the United States to be modernised. The ship departed on August 6th 1924 and reached Boston on the 30th, where she spent the next two years. Rivadavia was converted to use fuel oil instead of coal and had "a general machinery overhaul".A new fire-control system was fitted with rangefinders on the fore and aft superfiring turrets, and the aft mast was replaced by a tripod. A funnel cap was installed so that smoke from the funnels did not interfere with accurate rangefinding of enemy ships. The 6-inch secondary armament was retained, but the smaller 4-inch guns were taken off in favor of four 3-inch Anti-Aircraft guns and four 3-pounders.
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Colossus Class Light Fleet Carrier ARA Veinticinco de Mayo (Ex HMS Venerable,HNLMS Karel Doorman) pictured c1980. She was deployed south during the Beagle Crisis in 1978 and in the first weeks of the Falklands War, where her aircraft were deployed against the Royal Navy Task Force, but spent the bulk of the war in port,she was scrapped in 2000.
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We should not forget the ARA's 2 Italian built cruisers from the 1930s. ;)

The Veinticinco de Mayo design was derived from the Italian Trento class, identifiable by the closely paired main guns, similar to the last batches of the Condottieri-class cruisers. The ships were smaller than the original. They had a clean and simple design, with a length-width ratio of almost 10:1. Three twin turrets were mounted with an elevation of 46 degrees for firing.
Displacement: 6,800 tons (standard)
9,000 tons (full load)

Length: 171 m (561 ft 0 in)
Beam: 17.82 m (58 ft 6 in)
Draught: 4.66 m (15 ft 3 in)
Propulsion: 2 shaft Parsons turbines, 6 oil-fired boilers, 85,000 hp (63,000 kW)
Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h)
Range: 8,030 nautical miles (14,870 km) at 14 knots (26 km/h)
Complement: 780
Armament: 6 × 190 mm (7.5 inch)/52 caliber guns (3 × 2)
12 × 102 mm (4 inch)/45 caliber DP guns (6 × 2)
6 × Vickers-Terni 40/39 mm AA guns
6 × 533 mm (21-inch) torpedo tubes

Armour: 70 mm (2.75 inch) inch belt
25 mm (1 inch) deck
50 mm (2 inch) gun turrets
60 mm (2.3 inch) conning tower

Aircraft carried: 2 × Grumman J2F Duck aircraft
Aviation facilities: Catapult launcher

DFO
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Light Cruiser ARA La Argentina pictured off the Panama Canal,May 2nd 1940.
She was an enlarged version of the Arethusa Class, armed with triple turrets,being modified to meet the requirements of the Argentinians for a Training Ship to accommodate 60 cadets.The contract was put out to tender in 1935, being won by the British Company Vickers-Armstrong at a cost of 6 million pesos. La Argentina was built at Barrow-in-Furness.She was laid down on January 11th 1936, launched March 16th 1937 and not completed until January 31st 1939, being delayed by the British re-armament programme. She was decommissioned in 1972 and scrapped.
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Compared to the 2 Italian built cruisers, LA ARGENTINA did look typically staid British! ;) Probably the most useful of their 3 "modern" cruisers, built for them. DFO
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Don't cry for Argentina
Argentina will soon take delivery of a recently decommissioned South Korean frigate, according to local media.
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/argenti ... Thygy0aO4Y
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Hmmmmm...... wheels within wheels again , one law for some but bent by others as pointed out in the responses :roll:

Thanks for the post David .
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Argentine Protected Cruiser ARA Neuve de Julio pictured on the Hudson River c1910.
She was acquired by the Argentine navy as part of the South American naval arms race in the 1890s. Completed in 1893, the vessel remained in service until 1930.
Argentina and its rival Chile purchased a series of Cruisers in a local naval arms race from the 1890s to 1902, in which Armstrong of Elswick at Newcastle upon Tyne, sold ships to both sides, as well as to Brazil.
Nueve de Julio was designed by Philip Watts and was one of a series of fast Protected Cruisers built by Armstrongs at Elswick,for export.She was a second Class Protected Cruiser with quick-firing guns, in contrast to Argentina’s previous Elswick ship Veinticinco de Mayo which on a similar size hull mounted 8.2-inch main guns. Nueve de Julio was therefore similar to its predecessor Piemonte built for Italy, the first Cruiser with an all-quick firing armament, and the following Elswick Cruiser Yoshino built for Japan, which was the fastest ship in the First Sino-Japanese War and performed well in action.
Nueve de Julio had a double bottom except in the boiler and engine rooms (where the hull was not deep enough) and the protective deck had a raised glacis over the engines. Originally the torpedo tubes would have been 14-inch, the substitution with a larger type delayed her construction.Launched in 1892, she was completed in 1893. Nueve de Julio remained in service until being discarded in 1930.
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