Littoral Combat Ships - Independence Class
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Littoral Combat Ships - Independence Class
Littoral Combat Ships - Independence Class
This thread may be considered as complimentary to the thread titled 'LCS by Austal' in the World Navies United States Navy forum.
Although having plenty supporters; the overall functionality of the ships that comprise this class is still questioned by critics. In this thread I will include a few variations that were easily observed when viewing images of the class online.
Nose Jobs; - some observations:-
My reading has led me to believe that it was the Freedom class variant that suffered from ingress of seawater through the hawsepipe, yet as can be seen above, the Independence class ships have had their share of nose work done to the central hawsepipe, bullring/bullnose feature.
This thread may be considered as complimentary to the thread titled 'LCS by Austal' in the World Navies United States Navy forum.
Although having plenty supporters; the overall functionality of the ships that comprise this class is still questioned by critics. In this thread I will include a few variations that were easily observed when viewing images of the class online.
Nose Jobs; - some observations:-
My reading has led me to believe that it was the Freedom class variant that suffered from ingress of seawater through the hawsepipe, yet as can be seen above, the Independence class ships have had their share of nose work done to the central hawsepipe, bullring/bullnose feature.
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Re: Littoral Combat Ships - Independence Class
Bridge Wings; (some with - those without to be/being retrofitted)
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Source; Aviation Week Redeeming Freedom: U.S. Navy Seeks to Renew Faith in LCS - Nov 30, 2012
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Source; United States Government Accountability OfficeReport to Congressional Committees GAO-14-749 July 2014
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Source; Aviation Week Redeeming Freedom: U.S. Navy Seeks to Renew Faith in LCS - Nov 30, 2012
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Source; United States Government Accountability OfficeReport to Congressional Committees GAO-14-749 July 2014
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Re: Littoral Combat Ships - Independence Class
Bridge Wings; (some with - those without to be/being retrofitted)
LCS-2 USS Independence - designed and built without Bridge Wings
2008
2009 builders trials
2016 refit
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LCS 4 USS Coronado - also designed and built without Bridge Wings
2014 at sea with
2017 at sea with
LCS-2 USS Independence - designed and built without Bridge Wings
2008
2009 builders trials
2016 refit
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LCS 4 USS Coronado - also designed and built without Bridge Wings
2014 at sea with
2017 at sea with
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Re: Littoral Combat Ships - Independence Class
Bridge Wings; (some with - those without to be/being retrofitted)
SOLAS = Safety Of Lives At Sea
SOLAS Regulation 1 para 1 to 4
SOLAS Regulation 1 MCA Guidance para 1 - 8
SOLAS Regulation 1 MCA Guidance para 9 - 13
SOLAS Regulation 1 MCA Guidance para 14 - 15
late edit;
SOLAS Guidance on Chapter V - Safety of Navigation 2007 Revision
The revised Chapter V, Safety of Navigation, of the Annex to the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea (SOLAS V) came into force on 1 July 2002.
The Regulations are implemented under UK legislation by The Merchant Shipping (Safety of Navigation) Regulations 2002.
SOLAS Chapter V - Contents
Source; Maritime and Coastguard Agency
SOLAS = Safety Of Lives At Sea
SOLAS Regulation 1 para 1 to 4
SOLAS Regulation 1 MCA Guidance para 1 - 8
SOLAS Regulation 1 MCA Guidance para 9 - 13
SOLAS Regulation 1 MCA Guidance para 14 - 15
late edit;
SOLAS Guidance on Chapter V - Safety of Navigation 2007 Revision
The revised Chapter V, Safety of Navigation, of the Annex to the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea (SOLAS V) came into force on 1 July 2002.
The Regulations are implemented under UK legislation by The Merchant Shipping (Safety of Navigation) Regulations 2002.
SOLAS Chapter V - Contents
Source; Maritime and Coastguard Agency
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Re: Littoral Combat Ships - Independence Class
Bridge Wings; (some with - those without to be/being retrofitted)
SOLAS = Safety Of Lives At Sea
SOLAS Regulation 22 Navigation Bridge Visibility
SOLAS Regulation 22 para 1 - 4
SOLAS Regulation 22 MCA Guidance para 1 - 12
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Navy Times 26 th April 2010 Philip Ewing
SOLAS = Safety Of Lives At Sea
SOLAS Regulation 22 Navigation Bridge Visibility
SOLAS Regulation 22 para 1 - 4
SOLAS Regulation 22 MCA Guidance para 1 - 12
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Navy Times 26 th April 2010 Philip Ewing
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Re: Littoral Combat Ships - Independence Class
Bridge Wings; (some with - those without to be/being retrofitted)
LCS-2 USS Independence completed without bridge wings
LCS-4 USS Coronado completed without bridge wings
LCS-6 USS Jackson commissioned without bridge wings
LCS-8 USS Montgomery commissioned complete with bridge wings
LCS-10 USS Gabrielle Giffords commissioned without bridge wings June 10 2017
LCS-12 USS Omaha commissioned complete with bridge wings
LCS-14 USS Manchester commissioned complete with bridge wings
LCS-16 the future USS Tulsa completed without bridge wings
LCS-18 the future USS Charleston completed without bridge wings
LCS-20 the future USS Cincinnati completed with bridge wings (commissioning spring 2019)
LCS-22 the future USS Kansas City completed with bridge wings
LCS-2 USS Independence completed without bridge wings
LCS-4 USS Coronado completed without bridge wings
LCS-6 USS Jackson commissioned without bridge wings
LCS-8 USS Montgomery commissioned complete with bridge wings
LCS-10 USS Gabrielle Giffords commissioned without bridge wings June 10 2017
LCS-12 USS Omaha commissioned complete with bridge wings
LCS-14 USS Manchester commissioned complete with bridge wings
LCS-16 the future USS Tulsa completed without bridge wings
LCS-18 the future USS Charleston completed without bridge wings
LCS-20 the future USS Cincinnati completed with bridge wings (commissioning spring 2019)
LCS-22 the future USS Kansas City completed with bridge wings
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Re: Littoral Combat Ships - Independence Class
Bridge Wings; (some with - those without to be/being retrofitted)
Well, much that preceeded this post on the subject of Bridge Wings required a lots of reading; but if that is not your bag then try this - the following attachment is derived from two images published on't internet.
On the left is a cropped image of LCS-4 USS Coronado - and on the right is a cropped image of LCS-2 USS Independence. The issue is that which is displayed on the right and indicated by the orange arrows - note that the flight deck safety net appears to overlap the port bridge wing, whilst the Coronado LCS-4 image indicates that the safety nets should be behind or obscured by the port bridge wing.
Image tampering???
Well, much that preceeded this post on the subject of Bridge Wings required a lots of reading; but if that is not your bag then try this - the following attachment is derived from two images published on't internet.
On the left is a cropped image of LCS-4 USS Coronado - and on the right is a cropped image of LCS-2 USS Independence. The issue is that which is displayed on the right and indicated by the orange arrows - note that the flight deck safety net appears to overlap the port bridge wing, whilst the Coronado LCS-4 image indicates that the safety nets should be behind or obscured by the port bridge wing.
Image tampering???
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Re: Littoral Combat Ships - Independence Class
It certainly looks like the image has been Photoshopped, quite poorly though. I suppose that is one way of modifying ships, at no expense
Jim
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Re: Littoral Combat Ships - Independence Class
Yep thought so Jim ... blatant piece of desktop retrofitting without dockyard assistance ... blatantly bad that isjbryce1437 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:13 pmIt certainly looks like the image has been Photoshopped, quite poorly though. I suppose that is one way of modifying ships, at no expense
Jim
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Re: Littoral Combat Ships - Independence Class
The be$t use of these useless floating t___dz is as submerged reefs, which is what they will become within 10 minutes of combat starting....
They had no clear CONOPS before they were built, the so-called modules really don't work; and the USN is still searching for some mission they can do besides being targets, very expensive targets. DFO
They had no clear CONOPS before they were built, the so-called modules really don't work; and the USN is still searching for some mission they can do besides being targets, very expensive targets. DFO
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