RN Battleships: Victoria Class

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jbryce1437 wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:59 pm
emason wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:38 pm
jbryce1437 wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:50 pm HMS Victoria on the stocks at Elswick, her name having been changed from Renown to Victoria while building.
Two bladed propellors! How unusual was that? Or was it normal for the time?
Not sure Bill, but I have seen underwater images of her wreck and she has four blades on her props, so I assume the two blade props proved to be unsatisfactory and not enough thrust.
Thanks Jim,
They were my thoughts also.
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Sans Pareil Class Pre-Dreadnought Battleship HMS Victoria pictured fitting out at Armstrong Mitchell & Co Shipyards at Elswick in 1888. Victoria was ordered in 1885 as the Armour-Clad warship Renown, but was renamed shortly before launch in honour of Queen Victoria who celebrated her Golden Jubilee in 1887. Victoria was laid down at the Elswick yard of Sir W. G. Armstrong, Mitchell and Company and the first rivet was driven by Sir William Armstrong on April 23rd 1885. She was launched on Saturday April 9th 1887. At the time Victoria was the largest ship ever launched on the River Tyne and 150,000 people assembled to watch her go down the slipway. Her hull displaced so much water that some observers on the opposite bank were knocked down by the resulting wave.
Victoria was the first British Battleship to be equipped with triple expansion steam engines. All her lights were electric, and she was the first ship to be fitted with conventional bridge engine telegraphs, with a lever going forward for 'ahead' and backwards for 'astern'. As completed Victoria had very low funnels, which initially differentiated her from her sister-ship Sans Pareil which always had high funnels. Victoria's funnel arrangements did not provide much natural draught and in July-August, 1890 they were heightened by 27 feet. Because of her profile; a long forecastle with low freeboard and built-up superstructure aft, Victoria was known as 'the slipper' and with Sans Pareil as 'the pair of slippers'.
Victoria's crew arrived at Elswick on April 4th, 1888 and she left for Chatham Royal Dockyard to be fitted with her armour on April 8th, where she arrived on April 16th 1888. Completion of Victoria was delayed for years by trouble with her main armament of two BL 16.25 inch Mk I naval guns. All the guns of this type were manufactured by Armstrong's, but had to be proof fired by the Royal Gun Factory, Woolwich. One gun drooped 1.4 inches in April 1889 and was later installed in Victoria but the droop increased to 2.5 inches after firing 12 rounds. It was later reconstructed. In firing trials on October 17th 1889 the other gun was found to have a droop of 0.7 inches and a slight opening between hoops. On June 22nd 1893, she collided with HMS Camperdown near Tripoli, Lebanon during manoeuvres and quickly sank, taking 358 crew with her, including the commander of the British Mediterranean Fleet, Vice-Admiral Sir George Tryon. One of the survivors was executive officer of the Victoria, John Jellicoe, later commander-in-chief of the British Grand Fleet at the Battle of Jutland.
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Lead Ship, Pre-Dreadnought Battleship HMS Victoria pictured c1891...On June 22nd 1893, she collided with HMS Camperdown near Tripoli, Lebanon, during manoeuvres and quickly sank, killing 358 crew members, including the commander of the British Mediterranean Fleet, Vice-Admiral Sir George Tryon. One of the survivors was executive officer John Jellicoe, later commander-in-chief of the British Grand Fleet at the Battle of Jutland...The forward deck held a single turret with two BL 16.25 in Mark I guns. The 16.25 inch gun was chosen because similar large guns had been used in foreign ships, and because of difficulties in obtaining the navy's preferred 13.5 inch design. The great weight of the forward turret with its two guns meant that it had to be mounted low so as not to detract from the ship's stability, and that a similar large gun and turret could not be mounted aft. Instead, the after gun was a BL 10 inch gun protected by a gun shield.
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Lead Ship, Pre-Dreadnought Battleship HMS Victoria pictured fitting out at Armstrong, Mitchell & Company Shipyard's Fitting Out Berth, Elswick, Newcastle-upon-Tyne c1889.
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Brian James wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 4:12 am Lead Ship, Pre-Dreadnought Battleship HMS Victoria pictured fitting out at Armstrong, Mitchell & Company Shipyard's Fitting Out Berth, Elswick, Newcastle-upon-Tyne c1889.
Lovely old photo Brian. The description that I have for the photo is:
HMS Victoria is photographed in front of a huge grain warehouse at St Annes Newcastle upon Tyne in 1890.

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Messdeck in Pre-Dreadnought Battleship HMS Victoria in 1887.
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Lead Ship, Ironclad Pre-Dreadnought Battleship HMS Victoria pictured on sea trials in 1890.
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jbryce1437 wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:59 pm
emason wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:38 pm
jbryce1437 wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:50 pm HMS Victoria on the stocks at Elswick, her name having been changed from Renown to Victoria while building.
Two bladed propellors! How unusual was that? Or was it normal for the time?
Not sure Bill, but I have seen underwater images of her wreck and she has four blades on her props, so I assume the two blade props proved to be unsatisfactory and not enough thrust.

Jim
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